Could this rough shifting transmission have the wrong fluid inside?

Dear Car Talk | Nov 01, 2000
Dear Tom and Ray:
RAY: Gee, Franklin. I don't think it would make any difference. And all the transmission oil I've ever seen is the same color -- ugly dark brown.
TOM: In fact, we don't even see straight 80-weight transmission oil anymore. Everything we use is multi-viscosity -- it's either "80-140," meaning it performs like an 80-weight (thinner) oil when it's cold and like a 140-weight (thicker) oil when it's hot, or it's "80-90," which is what this shop claims to have used. And that should work fine.
RAY: I can only think of two possible explanations for your friend's problem (other than that he's imagining it, or it's a complete coincidence). I suppose that if they accidentally used the 80-140 oil, it might be a little thicker overall and might slow down the synchros enough to make the shifting feel a little stiff or notchy -- especially if there was an existing problem.
TOM: The other possibility is that they accidentally put automatic transmission fluid (ATF) in your transmission. That's a got a red color, and since it's considerably thinner than 90-weight oil, it might make the gearshift feel kind of "loose."
RAY: I'd say, in either case, for your friend's peace of mind, he should go back and ask them to drain that stuff out, and make sure they fill it back up with 80-90.
TOM: But to answer your question, it's unlikely that any permanent damage has been done.
RAY: Gee, Franklin. I don't think it would make any difference. And all the transmission oil I've ever seen is the same color -- ugly dark brown.
TOM: In fact, we don't even see straight 80-weight transmission oil anymore. Everything we use is multi-viscosity -- it's either "80-140," meaning it performs like an 80-weight (thinner) oil when it's cold and like a 140-weight (thicker) oil when it's hot, or it's "80-90," which is what this shop claims to have used. And that should work fine.
RAY: I can only think of two possible explanations for your friend's problem (other than that he's imagining it, or it's a complete coincidence). I suppose that if they accidentally used the 80-140 oil, it might be a little thicker overall and might slow down the synchros enough to make the shifting feel a little stiff or notchy -- especially if there was an existing problem.
TOM: The other possibility is that they accidentally put automatic transmission fluid (ATF) in your transmission. That's a got a red color, and since it's considerably thinner than 90-weight oil, it might make the gearshift feel kind of "loose."
RAY: I'd say, in either case, for your friend's peace of mind, he should go back and ask them to drain that stuff out, and make sure they fill it back up with 80-90.
TOM: But to answer your question, it's unlikely that any permanent damage has been done.
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